Monday, July 15, 2019

have you heard of the B 17 "Dreamboat" prototype and test mule?


A project B 17 with the nose and tail power-operated turrets from a B-24 Liberator, where they provided much more firepower and better armor protection.


The tail turret had a field of fire about six times greater than the original B-17 turret.

Since the nose was now taken up by the turret, the bombardier was moved to an under nose gondola, which provided such excellent visibility that he acted as the navigator too, reducing the number of crew members from 10 to nine.

The radio operator and his equipment were moved from the middle of the aircraft forward to a compartment next to the bombardier gondola, making it possible for them to communicate if the inter phone was shot out. More importantly, this moved the center of gravity forward and eliminated the tail heaviness. As an added benefit, this required a longer antenna wire, which provided a stronger signal.


The dorsal and ball turrets were replaced with lighter, roomier and better armored models, and the two waist gun positions were removed and replaced by a power boosted twin .50 machine gun mounted on top of the fuselage just above the old waist gun positions. It required only a single gunner, so the number of crew members was further reduced to eight.

The “barn door” type bomb bay doors were replaced with folding doors that extended only 8 inches into the slip stream. This cut drag during the bomb run and provided a tactical advantage, since the folding bomb bay doors were invisible from a distance. This meant that open bomb bay doors would not alert German fighters when the bomb run was beginning and the bombers could not maneuver. The oxygen system was redesigned so each crew member had double lines so if one was cut he would still receive a half supply.

The final results for the “Dreamboat,” as the project was nicknamed, were weight reduction of more than 1,000 pounds, the center of gravity moved forward to a nearly ideal point, all the manually operated machine guns were replaced with power operated weapons, and two crew members were eliminated. Speed and altitude performance remained the same because the drag of the bombardier’s “gondola” offset the reduced weight and improved the center of gravity.

Despite the improvements, incorporating the changes into the B-17 production line would have resulted in unacceptable delays for retooling and they were too extensive to be done in England, so Major Reed’s “Dreamboat” remained an object of curiosity in various depots for the rest of the war. The project was not, however, for naught. Many of Major Reed’s changes were incorporated in the new Boeing B-29 Superfortress and Convair B-32 Dominator, which were in their initial test stages and were to replace the B-17".


http://warbirdinformationexchange.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=67817

2 comments:

  1. Amazing what one 8th AF engineer was able to do. Reducing the crew for 10 to 8 and the weight by half a ton is mind blowing. I don't buy the slowing of production for such modifications as a major hurdle, I'm thinking it was more a matter of 'not invented here' coming from Boeing, et. al. One would also have to think that would be offset by the fact that a group of these bombers on a mission would have 100-200 fewer men risking their lives than a regular B-17. I also wonder about the reasoning given the production and combat testing of the YB-40, which was B-17 modified to be a gunship to provide more firepower protection for the rest of the bombers in the group. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_YB-40_Flying_Fortress

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