you really missed the Ferrari stickers on the car in the bottom image. Well, and you deny me that I know the Lancia Ferrari D50. Why you do that, I can't imagine. http://justacarguy.blogspot.com/2012/10/the-car-that-stunned-me-most-at-art.html
Ferrari were given 6 cars, 6 more engines and 2 more chassis; 60 crates worth - and Engineer Jano - the D50 designer. The engine was a stressed member. It's spec did not change other than bore/stroke/capacity and output over the years that Ferrari developed what they called the 801. A great deal of research is yours for the asking; love your work. Steven
I don't even comprehend which way your comment is going, it was a Ferrari engine? it wasn't? It was a Lancia? it wasn't? I didn't go farther into research than to look at the sticker, it earned it, the factory that made the car was the Ferrari plant, http://outsidethecubicle.tumblr.com/post/63635935300/timewastingmachine-scuderia-ferrari-factory#notes
from ferrari.com on the launch of the F430; "... Eight-cylinder engines with a 90 degree angle between their cylinder banks are a relatively recent addition to Ferrari history. Apart from the engine sported by the 1956 World Championship-wining F1 car, which Ferrari inherited from Lancia after the latter pulled out competition, (sic)and the one mounted to the 248 sports prototype in the early 1960s, it was 1973 before a Ferrari would be powered by an engine with this specific architecture...."
again, what direction is this comment going? You disagree that it had a Ferrari engine? What does a 430 have to do with the D50? Did you look at http://outsidethecubicle.tumblr.com/post/63635935300/timewastingmachine-scuderia-ferrari-factory#notes and now, are you saying the 1956 F1 championship winning was not a Scuderia Ferrari? See what a mixed message you are giving? Just agree, disagree, or explain your position, putting in evidence of whatever the hell a F430 has to do with 1956 is just frustrating me because it makes no sense.. and doesn't have anything to do with the car Fangio was driving. Get on this conversation in terms I can understand, or don't. I don't speak Italian, I don't know F430s, and I have touched the damn D50.
Jesse, That is the legendary Juan Manuel Fangio of Balcarce, Argentina. And the gif is from a documentary of Fangio talking about the Lancia Ferrari he raced at Monaco GP in '57 or '58. Here's the URL. www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9-BZ0NbriI
In July 1955 Ferrari were - effectively - given the whole, superior, Lancia Scuderia - castings , transporters - up to and including the designer. The car in this (1970?) footage is in pretty much the configuration as received, the Ferrari component being mostly stickers.Thomas Macavoy (covering Grace Kelly's wedding for LIFE) caught some of the initial changes being made at Maranello in May '56 - fairing, re-plumbing etc., but my point is that the engines were neither designed nor made there. The drive-train remained virtually unchanged throughout Ferrari's campaigning of the D50, Jano's design being developed peripherally - tanks moved first, suspension and exhaust changes etc., finally panniers deleted and in almost superficial increments becoming Ferrari's '801'. The next Ferrari was a V6; their first own V8 was not until 1962. Sorry to have frustrated you; I don't have anything other than Australian/English myself and obviously don't get out or write much. I envy you (touching a D50!) and appreciate what you share - been clicking on this site every few hours for some years now - so would happy to forward my research ... Steven
Ah ha! That's what you mean! Well... darn it.. I defer to your facts, though my stubborn bullheaded personality refuses to allow for my being wrong when the F1 recorded the car as a Ferrari. Well, I never liked F1 anyway! So, I'm with you. Lancia it is. http://outsidethecubicle.tumblr.com/post/63635935300/timewastingmachine-scuderia-ferrari-factory#notes is indeed a gallery of the Life photographer in the factory prior to the 56 Monaco GP, and all that adds up it being owned by Ferrari, and collaborating exactly what you've said.
Fangio for heaven's sake! and so not a ferrari engine
ReplyDeleteyou really missed the Ferrari stickers on the car in the bottom image. Well, and you deny me that I know the Lancia Ferrari D50. Why you do that, I can't imagine. http://justacarguy.blogspot.com/2012/10/the-car-that-stunned-me-most-at-art.html
DeleteFerrari were given 6 cars, 6 more engines and 2 more chassis; 60 crates worth - and Engineer Jano - the D50 designer. The engine was a stressed member. It's spec did not change other than bore/stroke/capacity and output over the years that Ferrari developed what they called the 801. A great deal of research is yours for the asking; love your work.
DeleteSteven
I don't even comprehend which way your comment is going, it was a Ferrari engine? it wasn't? It was a Lancia? it wasn't? I didn't go farther into research than to look at the sticker, it earned it, the factory that made the car was the Ferrari plant, http://outsidethecubicle.tumblr.com/post/63635935300/timewastingmachine-scuderia-ferrari-factory#notes
DeleteThat's Juan Manuel Fangio, greatest race driver of all time.
ReplyDeletethanks! I wasn't sure, and didn't want to guess
DeleteThe D50 did not have a Ferrari engine. It had a Lancia V8.
ReplyDeletehow sure are you about that http://outsidethecubicle.tumblr.com/post/63635935300/timewastingmachine-scuderia-ferrari-factory#notes
Deletefrom ferrari.com on the launch of the F430;
Delete"... Eight-cylinder engines with a 90 degree angle between their cylinder banks are a relatively recent addition to Ferrari history.
Apart from the engine sported by the 1956 World Championship-wining F1 car, which Ferrari inherited from Lancia after the latter pulled out competition, (sic)and the one mounted to the 248 sports prototype in the early 1960s, it was 1973 before a Ferrari would be powered by an engine with this specific architecture...."
again, what direction is this comment going? You disagree that it had a Ferrari engine? What does a 430 have to do with the D50? Did you look at http://outsidethecubicle.tumblr.com/post/63635935300/timewastingmachine-scuderia-ferrari-factory#notes and now, are you saying the 1956 F1 championship winning was not a Scuderia Ferrari? See what a mixed message you are giving? Just agree, disagree, or explain your position, putting in evidence of whatever the hell a F430 has to do with 1956 is just frustrating me because it makes no sense.. and doesn't have anything to do with the car Fangio was driving. Get on this conversation in terms I can understand, or don't. I don't speak Italian, I don't know F430s, and I have touched the damn D50.
Deletehttp://www.motorsportmagazine.com/database//championships/1-f1/138-1956-f1-world-championship
DeleteJuan Manual Fangio
ReplyDeletethanks! I wasn't sure
DeleteLooks like Fangio.
ReplyDeletethanks! I wsn't sure, and forgot I'd posted these before, but ahh heck, why not do it again
DeleteJesse, That is the legendary Juan Manuel Fangio of Balcarce, Argentina. And the gif is from a documentary of Fangio talking about the Lancia Ferrari he raced at Monaco GP in '57 or '58. Here's the URL. www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9-BZ0NbriI
ReplyDeletethanks! I figured it was Fangio, but didn't want to guess at it, thanks for the video link! I added that!
DeleteIn July 1955 Ferrari were - effectively - given the whole, superior, Lancia Scuderia - castings , transporters - up to and including the designer. The car in this (1970?) footage is in pretty much the configuration as received, the Ferrari component being mostly stickers.Thomas Macavoy (covering Grace Kelly's wedding for LIFE) caught some of the initial changes being made at Maranello in May '56 - fairing, re-plumbing etc., but my point is that the engines were neither designed nor made there. The drive-train remained virtually unchanged throughout Ferrari's campaigning of the D50, Jano's design being developed peripherally - tanks moved first, suspension and exhaust changes etc., finally panniers deleted and in almost superficial increments becoming Ferrari's '801'. The next Ferrari was a V6; their first own V8 was not until 1962.
ReplyDeleteSorry to have frustrated you; I don't have anything other than Australian/English myself and obviously don't get out or write much. I envy you (touching a D50!) and appreciate what you share - been clicking on this site every few hours for some years now - so would happy to forward my research ...
Steven
Ah ha! That's what you mean! Well... darn it.. I defer to your facts, though my stubborn bullheaded personality refuses to allow for my being wrong when the F1 recorded the car as a Ferrari. Well, I never liked F1 anyway! So, I'm with you. Lancia it is. http://outsidethecubicle.tumblr.com/post/63635935300/timewastingmachine-scuderia-ferrari-factory#notes is indeed a gallery of the Life photographer in the factory prior to the 56 Monaco GP, and all that adds up it being owned by Ferrari, and collaborating exactly what you've said.
DeleteEl Mejor !!
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