Showing posts with label 1969 Camaro. Show all posts
Showing posts with label 1969 Camaro. Show all posts

Tuesday, August 27, 2019

did you hear about the 69 RS Z 28 with enduro front bumper


Taken out of daily driving in 1980, but last taken out for a spin in 1994, then stored on space saver spare tire donuts





before it was even dusted off it already was paid for and owned by a collector.

https://www.hotrod.com/articles/rare-find-original-1969-chevrolet-camaro-z28-rally-sport-not-driven-since-1980/

Sunday, July 07, 2019

book review; Original Chevrolet Camaro 1967-1969 The Restoration Guide, Jason Scott. It's just a reprint of the 2001 book. So, shop wisely and get the least expensive of the many reprints


127 pages, 205 color photos

The author started out at the local gas station and repair, Jonesy's Service Center.  Then got a Journalism degree, and was instantly the Technical Editor of "Muscle Car Review" magazine.

 In the decades that followed, moved through every other car magzine you're familiar with including "Muscle Car Review", "Chevy Action!", "Corvette and Chevy Trader", "Ford and Mustang Trader", "Mustang Milestones", "Motorcycle Milestones", "Pontiac Enthusiast", and "Mopar Enthusiast", in addition to writing and photographing the material for numerous automotive books, and contributing articles to a host of magazines, including "AutoWeek", "Chevy High Performance", "Mopar Muscle", "Corvette Fever", "Mustang Monthly", "Super Ford", "Racing Milestones", "High Performance Pontiacs", "Poncho Perfection", and others.

First impression, great layout by setting the book to have the 1967 Camaro, then moving on to the 1968, then the 1969. NOT asking the reader to look through a mix of the 3, on each page, and showing the differences between them.

However, I also would not agree that this is a restoration guide, as the subtitle claims. If you've restored even one car, you'll know it take a lot more images of focus on every specific part and place on the car to do a restoration, like, the correct finish on every bolt, bracket, washers and nut: whether that should be body paint, black oxide phosphate, cadmium or zinc plating, bare metal, etc etc etc.
And without factory marking/inspection marks information, this, nor any, book is NOT a restoration guide

But it IS a good primer on what original Camaros were made to look like, what hoods, what stripes, what rims, steering wheels and interior parts and upholstery, though it would be vastly improved with comparative identification photos

So, I recommend that anyone that is learning muscle cars read this, or a similar book on the 60s Camaros, as the 60s Camaros are that important to the muscle car era and can't be ignored.



When I say this or similar book, it's because this book is either a reprint of the 1997, or the 2001 book of the same title or similar to them... same name, same author, (three examples above) and though it's certainly been given new photos, it may be the same text.... because they screwed up and didn't edit or proofread it properly, which I've pointed out to Quarto/Motor Books in the past. Either let myself or another enthusiast look at these book BEFORE they go to print, or get called on it when we review the books. So page 96 upper left 2 paragraphs. Obviously cut and paste and something wasn't moved right, and something is missing. My guess is that the taillight assembly paragraph doesn't belong on page 96 at all as they covered that on page 94... but the interrupted spoiler paragraph from page 95 doesn't continue on page 96, though some other sentence is indeed carrying on from somewhere.

Is that my only complaint, no, that's just the gripe I almost always have with the lack of expert proofreading that gets my goat with most auto enthusiast books. Just because I only have a high school diploma, doesn't mean I can't spot all the mistakes that someone in the book making process didn't catch, or made due to publishing methods.

The other complaints I have are possibly from expectations, and can the book maker or author be held to account for those? You decide. I'd like a comparative photo montage when the author discusses the the variety in grills, tail lights, stripes, and hoods. It's easy to make, and as a reader, I believe it's mandatory to include in a book for the understanding of the reader. Example? The 2 grill shapes of the 69 Camaro. The 3 stripes. The 4 different taillights.


Just a visual identification guide, which readers ought to expect based on the writer's statement in the introduction "to show all the subtle differences that make a typical restored Camaro easy to identify as restored versus original" and I think they forgot they were doing that. They never got around to showing what a 1000 point restoration would look like

Case in point, Mike can look at a 69 Camaro in a couple moments and tell you if it's restored correctly, there are a few simple and fast things to look at, and the 1st is the stripes and if they wrap under the header panel (that panel between hood and grill)


So, onto things learned:

I like to learn, and then use the info, what to look for in determining what year a car is. And at this, this book is exactly why you'd buy this book. This book seems to me to be the right book to read and learn from to then go out and be able to accurately identify the year and model of a Camaro, and decide if the car is a fake SS, or Z/28, built to look that way from a plain 6 cylinder model.

After all, how the heck do you tell if you're looking at a 67, or 68? 'Cause we all can tell a 69. Well, that is covered quite well, as you'd expect, and that is what I think this book was made for. A 67 has wind wing windows, or Vent Windows. The 68 had only the side window that was cranked up and down.

I learned that the bumble bee stripe around the nose of the Camaro, was actually named the "Front Accent Band" and that you COULD get a Camaro with a front bench seat in 67 (RPO AL4) and I suspect a 67 bench would bolt into a 68 or 69. Wouldn't that be a remarkable car at a car show! The bench seat was extra cost.
I learned that cars have drain holes because when they were produced, prior to the paint, they were dipped in liquid chemicals to prep the metal for primer... and those holes were plugged later. Seriously, no one has ever mentioned the drain holes purpose before. I thought it might be for getting water out of flooded cars.
I learned the 1968 rear spoiler was called by Chevrolet, an "auxilliary panel" RPO D80.
I learned a lot about the speakers... as just having installed the 8 track and rear 6x9s in my Coronet I'm aware that the factory was stingy with speakers, and here's some interesting trivia for Camaro, or other car models, when talking about car options.
The AM or AM/FM (U63 and U69) was mono - not stereo, and got one speaker in the front dash. An optional rear deck speaker was extra cost option RPO U80.
The AM/FM stereo radio was RPO U79, and came with 2 kick panel speakers, but no back deck speakers, unless the U57 8 track was ordered, which was a 4 speaker system and utilized the kick panel speakers as well as a pair or rear deck speakers
I learned the full wheel covers (hub caps) option RPO N96 cost more than twice what the rally wheels did. RPO ZJ7 was 31.60 vs the wheel cover at 73.75. Crazy huh!?
The 1969 body panels got an improved look, but the hood, grill, doors, fenders, tailpanel, and valances are still interchangeable
And lastly there are Ford parts on all the 67 - 69 Camaros. The glass windows were manufactured by Libby Owens Ford



In summation, the sub title of the book, "restoration guide" is not accurate, this book wouldn't get your through a restoration, nor inform you of how well someone else's restoration was  - if you were buying a 67,68, or 69 Camaro that the seller was trying to get more money for based on how much it was restored.

However, I think this is exactly the right book for an intro to the 60s Camaros, and a reader will learn the variations and become well versed in the Camaros enough to not embarrass themselves at a car show. To learn more would be to become an expert, and that would take several thick tomes of researched material to get more educated on the right coatings on hardware, and what the right parts vs cheap knockoffs should look like (example, which repop company makes the hub caps right, with out making the mistake of too deep a lip or ring etc, things looked for in NOS vs Repop points restoration counts when getting that certification at Carlisle, or Bowling Green)

This book has a good 3 chapter layout, and each is nearly identical, so it's easy to find the taillight info for the 1st, 2nd and 3rd year Camaro and compare them

But, I wish this book had a page of the tail lights for 1969 and by comparison, showed how to identify the model of car by the taillight, SS, RS/SS, RS, Z/28, and base model (and the stripes, and grills)

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0760365903/ref=dbs_a_def_rwt_bibl_vppi_i1
https://www.quartoknows.com/books/9780760365908/Original-Chevrolet-Camaro-1967-1969.html
https://www.amazon.com/Camaro-Restoration-1967-1969-Motorbooks-Workshop/dp/0760301603/ref=sr_1_9?keywords=Jason+Scott&qid=1562536421&s=gateway&sr=8-9

Mike happened to have a copy, so, I compared them, and they are identical, on every page



and page 96 upper left corner, the 1st paragraph are both not in a smaller number size, or different font, to indicate it's not the book text, it's actually the photo caption

Sunday, April 28, 2019

dd you know that Johnny Carson took a spin around the Indianapolis Speedway, at speed, and was only prevented from crashing by none other than Parnelli Jones?


In September of 1967, Carson got to do a few hot laps at Indianapolis Motor Speedway in Parnelli Jones’ STP Turbine Indy racer. Carson’s ride in the turbine car was a result of his relationship with STP boss Andy Granatelli. STP was a major sponsor of the Tonight Show and Granatelli, always a good interview, had been Carson’s guest on the show a number of times. Perhaps the relationship had grown out of Granatelli’s role at Studebaker. Carson was one of the first owners of the Avanti.


“Andy [Granatelli] and I took him around in the pace car. I was driving and Andy was in the backseat. After a couple of laps, while I was pointing out the proper groove, Johnny said, ‘I got it, let me try it.’ We switched seats and he took it around the first time. He did OK through the third turn and then the fourth turn, but going down the straightaway he was going too deep. When he didn’t back off, I yelled at him and grabbed the steering wheel.


He was doing what nearly all laymen do when they get a chance to drive. They think all you have to do is stand on it all the way around. You can’t do that in a race car, and you can’t in a passenger car, either, but they all seem to think you can. He was no different.

“He was a quick learner. “I’d shook him up a little, but he did just what I told him. He gained a lot of respect for the race car. And I had a lot of respect for how he did. He did really well.”

Though not nearly as fast as Jones in the car, Carson’s best lap averaged a respectable 138 mph after getting some pointers from Jones, Granatelli and Andretti. By comparison, it took a speed of at least 162 mph to qualify for the 500 that year.

http://www.rokemneedlearts.com/carsindepth/wordpressblog/?p=6456

Wednesday, January 09, 2019

funny movie line

FBI Boss: Can you ride a bike?
Michael Pena's characer:  Why a bike?
The bad guys ride bikes. Can you?
Michael Pena's characer:  Oh, I dominate anything with a motor!
Don't get cocky. I'm serious
Michael Pena's characer:  I'm not cocky either! Dude, gimme a snowblower and step the fuck back!

Michael Pena in CHiPS 2017

Why doesn't Michael Pena have a solo starring movie? This guy is damn good, and hilarious

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0493405/?ref_=tt_ch

and Big Red the 1969 Camaro is in the movie in the beginning. Michael Pena drives it in Florida.


http://imcdb.org/vehicle_1049114-Chevrolet-Camaro-1969.html

Friday, October 12, 2018

Dick Harrell COPO 427 Camaro finally gets out of the garage... after 40 years of storage. The only 4 speed Harrell ever built... spent 90% of it's life so far in a garage not being used


and the kicker? The old guy who was "going to restore it someday"? Inherited it when his brother died in 1977. He just made a fortune for storing it for decades, darn shame he didn't enjoy driving it.


It amazes me to hear the owner say some nonsense like "I wasn't going to be able to finish it the fashion that I wanted to" when you can see that he's done zero with it in 40 years. That's a clear confusion on his part. When you haven't ever started, you're full of shit to say you aren't going to be able to finish it.

What's wrong with being honest and saying - I was too broke to buy parts or pay for a paint job, so I held onto it until I was offered the right price by a collector who is simply going to profit off it.



Funny how the 1972 Barracuda used the same stripe design.

https://www.hotrod.com/articles/1969-dick-harrell-chevrolet-copo-camaro-finds-new-home/

Thursday, August 16, 2018

1969 Camaro RS/SS was found sitting untouched since 1984 in an Anchorage, Alaska backyard, was originally a big block 4 speed

Do you know what happens to new ZL1 Camaros? They get stolen from Chevy dealerships. How long has this been going on? Since 1969. You'd THINK dealerships would have learned, and increased security. Nope


That's what is left of a new Camaro, the $80,000 kind, after thieves pull it out of a dealership, strip it of everything, and leave the frame in the ghetto.  https://twitter.com/fox12oregon/status/976267161412005888/photo/1
http://www.thedrive.com/news/19503/thieves-stripped-this-camaro-zl1-after-stealing-it-from-a-dealership
http://www.kptv.com/story/37746188/caught-on-camera-new-camaro-stolen-from-sandy-car-dealership-in-brazen-heist

Stealing from a dealership is not a new or original concept, it happens all the time, and has been happening for decades. Especially from Chevy dealerships

Back in 1969 5 ZL1s were stolen from ONE dealership.

What's crazy about that? One was found, the insurance company paid to have a 327 put in it, and when Super Chevy Magazine published the VINs of all 69 ZL1s in the 80s, a buddy said to his Camaro owning friends, hey, that looks like your VIN.

He was right. A ZL1 was in his friends garage, and with that 327 replacement the insurance company had installed so they could sell it and recoup some of the payout on the claim.

That Camaro is getting a feature in upcoming Muscle Car Review magazines as it gets restored


Another of the 5 stolen ZL1s was bought as a shell (all the goodies stripped out and installed in a race car no doubt) and sat in a collection for 23 years, until the VIN was checked, and found to be a ZL1 VIN, and then it was restored (with replacement parts) and sold at auction for $171,000

Why hadn't it been noticed that it was a ZL1 before that? The DMV made a mistake in the paperwork. They botched the typing, and goofed up the paperwork.

https://www.hemmings.com/blog/2013/11/06/lost-zl-1-camaro-sells-for-171562-at-toronto-fall-classic-auction/

Sunday, August 05, 2018

hard to imagine, but true, there is still an original owner driving his ZL1 1969 Camaro, Ken Barnhart. The original engine has 1.7 miles on it, and is sitting on a shelf. A duplicate has been used to keep this Camaro racing without worry


https://www.hotrod.com/articles/rain-not-stop-20th-annual-super-car-reunion-hot-yenkos-copos-gm-muscle/



No stranger to the quarter-mile, Barnhart had been racing since the '50s. He almost won the 1959 Nationals at Detroit Dragway, but his none-too-featherweight '39 Cadillac was edged by a fleeter Studebaker. He took the G/Stock trophy at Indy in 1961, however, in a quick '55 Chevy. The ZL-1 brought him back from a short retirement.

Curiously, as soon as the Camaro was in Barnhart's garage, the original aluminum 427 was removed. It was replaced with the duplicate, over-the-counter ZL-1 engine that is still found under the hood today. Except for an old-school Edelbrock Torker intake manifold and replacement 850-cfm carb, the engine is faithful to the original ZL-1.

The graphics and lettering that adorn the Camaro's bodywork were done in 1969 and haven't been touched since. The only paintwork that's been applied to the car's flanks occurred when the rear fender openings were slightly stretched to accommodate larger rubber.

Barnhart's reliable and potent combination made his Camaro the scourge of Super Stock racing for a couple of years. He captured the SS/B title at Indy in 1970, and was runner-up at the Nationals in 1971.

Barnhart slogged it out in Super Stock through the mid-'70s-recording a best e.t. of 9.92 at 134 mph-with a narrowed Dana rearend and 5.38 gears

Barnhart's been the proprietor of a gas station located on the same Elgin, Illinois, corner since 1959.


http://www.superchevy.com/features/sucp-0404-1969-chevy-camaro-zl1/
https://www.camaros.net/forums/35-copo-dealer/151338-zl1-video.html


it is number 16 of 69 made

Barnhart was recuperating from an accident incurred while drag racing, flipping through a magazine about cars, when he came across the ZL1. He instantly made up his mind to buy one of the 69 vehicles if possible, and, although he had retired, to dive back into drag racing.

 “This vehicle has never been street driven,” said Barnhart. “It hasn’t been run in a competition in 20 years, but I still take it and put it down at the track.

http://www.galesburg.com/news/20160805/fast-fancy-cars-and-family-atmosphere-draw-crowd-to-monmouth-cruise-night