Monday, December 24, 2018

it seems that to make an Insight a winner in autocross racing, you have to make a real car suspension and power train. So, why the hell work with a Insight?



http://www.wreckracing.gatech.edu/uncategorized/wreck-racing-wins-overall-at-grm-2017-challenge/

1st place in Autocross, Concourse, College Class, and overall in the competition put on by Grassroots Motorsports Magazine $2017 challenge.

2001 Honda Insight
-Subaru EG33 Flat six engine
-Mid-engine layout
-2006 Crown Victoria front suspension
-Custom pushrod style double wishbone suspension in the rear
-Suzuki Hayabusa coilovers all around
-Subaru GC8 5 speed transmission with center diff lockout

http://www.wreckracing.gatech.edu/competition-cars/
https://orgsync.com/136463/chapter

9 comments:

  1. The reason for all the work is that it's students and an engineering project. The whole point is that it's difficult to do. They are demonstrating that thought and hard work overcomes all the Insight's shortcomings. The idea is to go out and beat people with deep pockets and Lotus 7's.

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    1. Wickershaw... when you're done pointing out what I already knew, and the obvious, please explain why they wasted the money and effort to make a good race car from a mundane commuter that has no reason to be on a race track, instead of a cheap used sports car, or Mustang, Camaro, etc.
      If you've been reading along, I constantly celebrate and feature the guys that make the race car that wins, like Duffy, Balchowski, Lunch Money, etc, and you should have noticed this.
      But they all had the good sense to start with something competitive, and make it better.
      Compliments to these school students that made a winner from a loser, but try and read and comprehend WHAT I'm posting. I asked why not start with something plausible first.

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  2. If they started with a semi-competitive sports car or pony car there are already tried and true paths to make it competitive. It would take work and money but not much innovation. This project required a lot of thinking outside the box as well as labor.

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    1. good point. I still can't understand them for wanting to make an ox into a race horse. Might as well start with an Isetta, Yugo, or dump truck

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  3. As much as I like this blog, and I have been here for a long time, I'm about to stop reading. Jesse, you seem to have an uncanny ability to attack your readers.

    "Why not start with something plausible first?" Looks like other students started with BMW's, an MG Midget, a Mazda Miata, and a VW GTI. Name something more "plausible" than those. The guys with the Insight won. They did exactly what the old school builders did. They took what they had, used hard work, and turned it into a winner. The reason for the entire effort was to demonstrate to a college professor that a "a mundane commuter that has no reason to be on a race track" can be dramatically transformed (win or lose). To be frank, your views on "where to start" don't count.

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    1. Stop when ever you like. I am not here to cater to you, get you vote, or appease your tenderness.
      I'm doing my thing, you do yours boo.
      Did I post an attack at readers? No. I posted my question about the car, showed the car, brought it to your attention, and requested a logical or interesting answer that isn't blase, obvious, dull, or boring.
      Did I direct that at you? Was it an invitation to a duel? Was it a ticket to the bullring? No.
      You stepped up, gave it your best shot, but never went past the line of duh. As in, no duh!
      Then, as I felt it incumbant upon me to reply to you since you'd decided to dialog about it very unsatifactorily, I also had the need to point out my long term history on record, of celebrating the home built hot rod that beats the factory best.
      Which, this post is one more example of. However, instead of logically starting strong, they wasted effort and time with a ox, to make a race horse. I repeat myself, why not start with a horse?
      So, if you feel you've been attacked, you're wrong, if I had any idea who you were, what you're about, and found all that to be offensive, I'd probably ignore you and move onto posting about something interesting instead. Or, if provoked and I was to attack you instead, oh, you'd KNOW you've been attacked.
      Regardless, this is a good time to ask you, where's your website? What did you post for readers today? Did anyone reply to a post with something dumb to say? Did they point out the obvious? Waste your time? Well, no? Then, welcome to my world, I've been doing this for 12 years, been replying to comments about 15 thousand times, and with no end in sight, can tell you it isn't always butterflies and kitty purrs.
      If you like the blog, great. If you are annoyed by me, then go find some other blog to enjoy instead, why tell me your feelings are hurt? I've got better things to do than parry dull comments.
      I'm not here to make you happy, this blog wasn't made for you. I didn't send out a invite for you, nor charge you to read along. There was no subscription, you have nothing ventured, and nothing to lose by moving along. I've said this many times in the past, and probably will repeat myself in the future.
      I'm doing my thing, you can roll along and enjoy the ride, or not. Please yourself, then go share something you enjoy with others. If you want to, or don't. I don't know you, I don't have any way to tell if you're here, or not, reading, or moved on.
      This isn't a two way telecommunications empire, this is just me doing what I want on my blog. Not your blog, not your site.
      Don't whine about shit, either be happy, or move along. You don't have to comment, don't have to feel the need to advise me, or correct me, or complain. You can move along, or not. Please yourself, as that is all I'm doing here, making myself happy. Rhetorically, if you didn't pick that up.
      While I do my thing, anyone that wants to read along is welcome to, anyone that can find entertainment is also welcome to that.
      I may make friends or not along the way, but that's not my reason for doing this site.
      To be frank, my view, my blog, and it's all that counts to me.

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  4. I went to the $2004 Challenge with the BatVan. Auto-X, Drags & Concours for under (now) $2019, this includes buying the car. It's a Challenge! Wonderful, helpful, friendly people, everyone should go at least once.

    https://grassrootsmotorsports.com/articles/holy-challenge-batvan/

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  5. Why an Insight? 100% aluminum frame and body for maximum weight savings. Engineering students ain't dumb.

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    1. well, now, THAT is information that makes sense! Info I can use! Hell, for all I knew, it was just a stupid choice of a car too damn small, completely useless except the VIN and windshield

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