Showing posts with label ignition. Show all posts
Showing posts with label ignition. Show all posts

Friday, February 03, 2023

the Mopar Performance Orange Box is available for Mopar enthusiasts, Mancini Racing went to the original supplier to remake the performance Orange Box!


By the early ‘70s, Chrysler had added distributor EI to its list of firsts. With the goal of better fuel economy and cleaner exhaust emissions, Chrysler offered, as an option, a breaker-less distributor, a five-pin ignition box, a dual-ballast resistor, and the related wiring into late-year production ’71 manually shifted (3- or 4-speed) 340 Demons and Dusters.

 The newer solid-state internals of the four-pin Orange Box provided a more consistent, hotter spark for better performance, which resulted in a rock-solid dwell control to 6000 rpm. 

Chrysler developed the high-rpm capable Chrome (8000 rpm) and Gold (12,000 rpm) Boxes for the high-winding crowd, but the Orange Box sufficed for most street cars.

https://moparconnectionmagazine.com/gallery-mancini-racing-reintroduces-the-orange-box-videos/

Monday, January 04, 2021

It's startling to discover a rev limiter working... for the first time. At 5500 rpm. That's too low for a rev limiter to be set. Why was it that low? Because I took my 69 R/T to JBA to get the ignition installed, and they simply DGAF about proper set up and install

I paid to have an entire MSD system installed, which I'd saved my income tax returns for, in 4 consecutive years, professionally installed at JBA in San Diego

One year I bought the spark plug wires, one year the above electronics and rev limited module, one year the distributor... and in 2020 I set aside 500 from the income tax return thinking that at 150 an hour, 3 or 4 hours ought to get the job done. 

important words in that 1st sentence are "paid for", and "professionally". The 'paid for' part happened. The professionally? Well;     I've recently been told "shit happens" and I've "got the right to" post what I want to about it, and I got those quotes from the owners, J Bittle and Bruce Tucker. 

Yeah, quotes. Quotes that were replies from asking them if they wanted to handle my complaints personally instead of Yelp review, etc. 

They 'Don't Give A Fuck' about how I let other people know what a shit show happened when my car was there. So I'll go on posting about it my way. Honestly. The facts, and how I cope with the single greatest fucking debacle in my life as a car guy dealing with companies in the aftermarket car situation. 

It's so disgraceful, it's nearly imaginable that they had some moron doing the work with no supervision, no training, and no experience working with musclecars.

Oh, wait, no - that's the actual situation. A college student with zero experience working on 1960s muscle cars. When I had to point out to the guy behind the counter that the hood was jammed down onto the battery posts, I then learned that not only was no one aware that the moron working on my car had not gotten the customer to authorize a replacement battery, but he installed one too tall to fit under the hood. 

The other idiot, or, the same one - not sure, but does it really matter? Was told to install the MSD system I brought in to get installed.... and no one, not the service manager, the service writer, the mechanic, not even the shop manager - called me to ask what I wanted the rev limiter set at. 

Who the fuck installs a rev limiter without being aware that it should be set at an RPM level which makes sense? 










Where the sign over the door says "Full Service" but I think a quick look at the facts indicates false advertising


here's some more quotes from their website that also fall short in reality, in my recent expensive experience

"Most importantly, our staff is fully invested in maintaining the highest levels of expertise in the automotive arena."
"JBA has got your back"
"Our experienced technicians can assist you in installing everything from a complete supercharger system to a simple carburetor swap. ... to your engine for optimum performance"
"Adding any kind of accessory to your vehicle is easy when you have the expert service technicians at JBA who can help"


Maybe you're not convinced that these claims are applicable to MSD products... 


https://jbaspeedshop.com/p-31066-partners.html  is the link where the claim to a partnership with MSD is made

On the JBA website is the following:
 CONTACTING US

We welcome your comments. Please send email to info@jbaracing.com

I think it would be relevant for you car guys to have their email address in the chance that you'd like to let them know your thoughts on the results of my experience there.

Not just this ignition rev limiter debacle, but also the hood impacted onto the battery, the broken window, the lack of calling their customer to discuss what choices there are before the company decides what battery to buy, what oversize battery to install, what to do about the air filter being reinstalled with some of it hacked off, or not. 


Just a few of the things they fucked up and didn't handle as you'd expect from any ordinary shop that's got someone intelligent anywhere on the premises, mechanics, management, supervisors... much less a shop that's specialized in adding aftermarket parts to muscle cars. 

I think this is an example of the old phrase "egg on face" 

Wednesday, July 10, 2019

Only 19 years too late to use this coupon for a free set of MSD ignition wires. Damn it.



I finally used my income tax return last year to get the distributor, but the previous year bought a set of plug wires, not realizing the dustributor cap ends were that weird uncommon female end, not the common old fashioned male ends that plug into a distributor cap. So, I couldn't use this coupon for several reasons.

But I'm still steamed that if you follow a certain predetermined cockamamie set of rules, you get the prize. But spend the fucking money on the same stuff and more, like the MSD 6AL controller box, and you don't qualify. To me, that's bullshit. Treat your customers like it matters that it matters that they chose to spend your paychecks with them!

Tuesday, December 05, 2017

Book review "Day One" by former sports and speed car magazine editor, Martyn Schorr


Google book preview  has the first 25 pages or so, but that barely touches the meat of the material, so, don't get any hopes that it's a shortcut to seeing what the book is about.

Instead, think about all the new car test drives you've ever read about, as that's what this really is, when you cut through the smoke and mirrors of it appearing to be a book.

It's a summation of about 14 years of the authors transcripts from when he did test drives for a magazine, and press junkets, etc. Back in the 60s he put all the info in a magazine, and now he's boiled down those car reviews and test drive articles into a coffee table book.

It's a loaded book,



that covers the interesting sports and muscle cars that Detroit made from 1962-1974

Not every one, but nearly all of them. And this is from the guy who did the test drives, a lot of which were drag strip tests, which is impressive, and it has a lot of great photos, and even a damn good look at the concept and prototype cars from Pontiac, Chevrolet, GM, Ford, Buick, etc.

Again, not every single one, but most of them. The SC/Rambler isn't in this book, as that wasn't something he test drove back in the 60s, neither were Cadillacs, Lincolns, Avanti, etc.

 The Author did test drive an enviable list of cars, and wow, he was tight with Baldwin Motion too, and rarely was wasting any time with unimpressive cars.

There is a lot of info in this book, and it's nearly all first hand from the test drive point of view, and what was done to make the cars perform a bit better, for more fun at the track, and better numbers, closer to the promises made by the manufacturers on Hp and ET.

Which is to say, it's dry. Unlike the barnfind books which are story after story of thrills or treasures found, this doesn't have the colorful stories. And much of the content is the same as the author has already used in his other books,  Ford Total Performance: Ford's Legendary High-Performance Street and Race Cars

It's right on the nose at 200 pages, and a hell of a lot of photos that are tied into the narrative on the page, and about half the photos are colored, or black and white. Some are at the drag strip for initial reports on the performance, and some are the press release publicity shots.

It's rare to read a book that is from the magazine people who abused the press corps test cars, but who also were in the small circle of insiders that knew how race parts were developed by the big three despite the AMA ban, and used to support the racers... among the other "in the know" stuff that the general public was unaware, like programs and development goals (ever heard of the LS7?) and was there for testing preproduction cars that never resulted in production.

The close ties to the super car makers, Baldwin Motion, Nickey Chevrolet, Royal Pontiac, and Yenko... and the focus of the author on the high perf parts, codes, options, Hi Po car models, plans and fails, this is priceless and rare stuff. This really is the reason to get this book and soak up all the rare knowledge.

I'd say it's obvious that the author was smitten with Pontiacs most of all, and the GTO specifically, and wasn't very impressed with Fords and less with Mopars which he didn't learn much about aside from the hemi (ex Stage 2 or 3 413). A lot of the content of the book deals with the comparative details of the difference between the Pontiac and Oldsmobile muscle cars, very little with Plymouth or Mercury. But that's just what I'd expect of a magazine article writer or editor in the 60s. They were driven by hype and publicity I suppose, not playing favorites with the highest dyno numbers.

Now that I've covered the facts, I'll get to the opinion:
The first thing I noticed was the bad choice in colors for the cover, an olive green, light red, and blue. I can't guess why, but I hope no one ever repeats it.
Then I decided that whatever editor or proofreader had let those ugly colors pass by unremarked, had also not noticed the mistakes and errors in the book. That's annoying.

Examples? Well, stating that the displacement was peaked in 1963. Page 47. 427, 428, 429 - inches was not the peak, that would be either the 455 for outright grunt, or the 460 or 462 (385 series) for size in the 70s, or in the malaise era Cadillacs over 500 cu in.
Another was captioning the cars in a photo, and stating that number 10 was whatever. The cars in the photo do not include a number 10. They do have a number 0, 3, and 22. page 57.
Another photo caption discusses the turbos in the lower left photo but directs you to try and see them in the lower right photo, which has none. Sigh. Page 159
Another was the years 2004-2005 mentioned when I'm certain the author meant the 60s, 1964-65 page 70
Or how the divider between the rear seat and trunk was filled with water for weight. Page 86

Things I learned:
Export kits in the 50s and 60s from Buick were disguised hi po parts kits for a 10% hp bump
The Ford board chairman who told the AMA to that Ford was going to ignore the ban, was also the president of the AMA
The humor editor hired by Hi Performance Cars magazine, was a great writer that knew how to have fun, and did a test drive of a Maine lobster boat, a scale Can Am McLaren bed (built by Bruce Meyers), and in 1970, took a dump truck to the drag strip. The 768 cu in Cummings and 16 speed trans put the garbage truck down the 1320 in 43.88 seconds, at 61 mph, shifted every 43 feet.
Briggs Cunningham took delivery of a 1962 Pontiac Grand Prix, then immediately had a super charger bolted on
The super stock 1963 Z11 Impala... never heard of that before!
Ford bought a 1963 Z11 Super Stock Impala, and was race testing it at Dearborn Proving Ground
The dealership Bob Ford Inc, in Dearborn, was owned by Henry's nephew. The name changed to Fairlane Ford in the 80s, it's on the corner of Chase Rd and Michigan Ave


The Mopar Golden Commando's raced a 1965 Barracuda, named it the Goldfish, it was literally sent to pasture with 325 miles on it, all dragstrip. It was found in 1999, and restored



Astronaut Gordon Cooper, had a 1966 427 SOHC Galaxie (of course, no pun intended)
Cooper told a kid that 7 were made like that for the 7 astronauts  https://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/threads/ford-427-sohc-engines.761572/page-8 which was verified by Bill Holbrook
2 people bought 1967 GT 500 Shelby Mustangs with the 427, it was 45% more expensive than a 428 engined identical GT 500, however, what I was told by John, who owns one, http://justacarguy.blogspot.com/2008/02/67-shelby-gt-500-cobra-mustang-one-of.html was that about 40 were made, and they used up the 427 engines, then made them with 428s
The dealer plate for Nickey was 4501, because the street number for the dealership was 4501 Irving Park Road, Chicago
For a super tune, Motion would install metal core Packard 535 spark plug wires, with Rajah bakelite plug clips
The 67 Z28 302 was made from 64-65 Corvette cam and valvetrain parts, and topped with a 800cfm Holley double pumper
The AMC 390 heads used 202/160 valves, so, replacing them with the Corvette swirl polished, hard chromed, light weight valves reduces the weight of the valvetrain by 15 ounces, and.... increases the red line by 750 to 1000 free rpm
Legend Larry Shinoda designed the ZL2 Camaro hood, and the Boss 302 branding and graphics. Damn, he was on 2 fronts (or more) of the pony car wars
A base 1969 Camaro cost 2700, a ZL1 cost 7350
7 ZL1 engines were sent to St Louis for Corvette installations (why not Bowling Green?) but only 2 were put in. 5 were quarantined, and never returned. I bet they disappeared.
One 69 Camaro was built with the LS7 454, at Baldwin Motion, sold to Ray Dotterer
I've never heard of a Kendig carb, but Dyno Don used them on his pro stock Ford
Olds had a Stage II 455 powering a GSX into the 11s, it couldn't make the vacuum needed to run power brakes. So, it never went into production cars
Olds experimented with a hemi, the 4 cam OW 43, it made 700hp


Saturday, June 04, 2011

Brilliant tumblr site name "18436572.tumblr.com" by Travis

Great image from 18436572 http://18436572.tumblr.com/ First time I've seen one viewed as a piece of photographic art (it is)

If you know why I admire the title of this Tumblr site, head of the class for you, and you must have earned that answer the hard way, I did http://justacarguy.blogspot.com/2008/10/18436572-or-how-i-spent-my-morning.html

Tuesday, May 15, 2007

Mr Gasket.... wow, huge corporation

They own, Hays Clutches, Hurst Shifters, Accel Ignition, Erson Cams, Jacobs Electronic Ignition, Mallory Ignition, and Lakewood Safety and Suspension

http://www.mrgasket.com/race_proven_brands.html