I coincidentally was heading the same direction as this guy.... with Michigan plates for some strange reason. That isn't right for a collector to have a car with plates from another state he's not a resident of, is it?
Here in N.Y. Jesse, if you have residents in another state and can prove this to the satisfaction on of the DMV you can register your vehicle in that state. But I'm not sure for how long the they allow it. Mainly because it's revenue New York isn't getting. I might have to investigate this a bit.
right, if you have more than one residence... but, I'm pretty sure they have a law that says if you're in this state longer than a week, maybe 2 weeks, you have to get a resident drivers license, and must register and insure the vehicle here.
Why not? I have dual residents and trucks registered in two states for several years until retiring the older one. Still carry a driver's license out of one but live in the other. Just you know, both states will sell me handguns.
Does either state have a requirement that says if you're in this state longer than a week, maybe 2 weeks, you have to get a resident drivers license, and must register and insure the vehicle here? Some states are like that
VT will allow you to register a vehicle if you are not a resident. They have very clear instructions on how to do it on the DMV web site. VT is commonly used for collectors who cannot get a title for their car in their own state due to it being from a title-exempt state (like NH or VT for vehicles over a certain age or from southern states that didn't issue titles until the early 70s) or lost title. You can register it as long as you like in VT as long as you pay the sales tax each year of the full book value of the car, or you can then take your valid VT reg to your DMV and use it to obtain a title and registration for your state. There might be other states like this.
thanks! Well, that will explain any Vermont plates I see... so just keep paying the book value sales tax, every year? Dang, they are making money off someone with that hook!
Yup, I looked into doing it for my 79 VW Bus now that I'm in Maine, the bus was last registered in NH in 2013 and is title-exempt there. Maine wants $280 a year in taxes - flat rate since over 15 years old but I need a current out-of-state reg to get a title, VT wants KBB\NADA average retail value ($14,000) x 6% = $840. Not cheap but if you have no other option then it is a pain worth feeling.
Fortunately, I still own property in NH so I'm going to register it in NH this spring for the whopping sum of $75 and call it good.
you live in Vermont? and have property in New Hampshire? You're living in some real forested country! I was stationed in CT in 1990-91, and once drove north on the 91 interstate until I got into Canada... just for a nice look around at that part of the USA that is possibly the least visited by tourists (as that's the corner of the country and and of the continent) and yet amongst the oldest of the colonies and oldest USA historical stuff to see... revolutionary war fort locations, etc. BEAUTIFUL land up there. Owning land in NH, is that for camping, hunting, farming? Or family heritage? Or something else? Only curious, not trying to intrude if you don't want to discuss it. Maine wants 280, Vt wants 840, but NH is good for 75? Dang, they know what they're doing! You get a lot more people to pay less and get them to visit now and then, or own property and pay property tax, or something... and by comparison, why would anyone bother with Vermont?
I live in Maine, I have a house in NH that the ex lives in along with my daughter and grandson. When we split the market was horribly depressed with the crash of 2008, selling the house at that time would have screwed us both so we left it out of the proceedings. Worked out well for both of us, she got a place to live along with the kids at a monthly payment that is about half of the current rental costs for a single bedroom apartment, and I get to keep a tax-free residence. The house is in southern NH - aka Boston-North - and I live in northern Maine because I am not a people-person :). I was born and raised in NH, my parents and family are all from Maine so it is a natural thing for me living around here.
NH has no sales or income tax, though property taxes are not cheap (~$2600 per $100,000). People use VT because they are one of the few states that don't require residence to register, then title-required states have to accept your valid, current reg as proof of ownership for title-request purposes since VT won't title over 15 years of age. You'll pay for it with VT but if the alternative is not being able to register your classic OR - more importantly - sell it at loss because of no title, $800 is worth it. I've sold 30+ cars out of state that are title-exempt. Even non-running project cars can be registered in VT and\or NH (no required inspection prior to registration) so I have tossed plates on a non-runner for $75 to make an out-of-state or out-of-country sale. It's a lovely thing :)
NH is inexpensive to register - used or new - with no sales tax but you do have to show a valid NH ID. Oh, and NH doesn't require insurance. Right. No forced car insurance. Well, until you have an accident and don't cover your responsibility or if you have a DUI, then you need an SR-22 (expensive forced insurance rider) for 3 years. Of course, if you have a lien then you have to have insurance but that is forced by the lender, not the state.
All three states are quite lovely, though the winters are harsh. Both ME and NH have the advantage of being able to go from the ocean to the mountains and back again in a single day. VT is just green as hell and less populated. Plus, they have some of the best cheese on the planet :D
Oh yes, that 2008 financial train wreck... I worked for 2 companies between 2007 and 08 that went out of business because of that, and the "Stimulus Package" killed the contract job I was working when Lockheed Martin got the news that a bridge to nowhere was more important than the military base security contract we'd been working under... and that was the best job I've ever had, and it went poof * like a smoke cloud in a hurricane. Happy to hear that your split was amicable enough to allow for the house to work out the way it has... surely it has worked out better than probably anything else would have for them to rent or try to buy. I posted some trail crawlers out in the far reaches of Maine, or Vermont, I can't recall which, and that is some beautiful country! I grew up in the upper peninsula of Michigan, with very similar winter and summer weather to that of Maine, Vt, NH. The car registration and insurance seems to still be very 60s, not a lot of govt interference in what has worked out well so far. Oh hell yes the cheese, and syrup... I love them both too much. An uncle was the type to make homemade maple syrup, and nothing synthetic matches that incredible rich smokey flavor as homemade syrup. It's made pancakes pretty expensive for me compared to Aunt Jemima, or whatever sugar syrup is in the stores now, but it's as impressive to taste compared to storebought as as the best pizza vs 7-11 frozen pizza.
Here in N.Y. Jesse, if you have residents in another state and can prove this to the satisfaction on of the DMV you can register your vehicle in that state. But I'm not sure for how long the they allow it. Mainly because it's revenue New York isn't getting. I might have to investigate this a bit.
ReplyDeleteright, if you have more than one residence... but, I'm pretty sure they have a law that says if you're in this state longer than a week, maybe 2 weeks, you have to get a resident drivers license, and must register and insure the vehicle here.
DeleteWhy not? I have dual residents and trucks registered in two states for several years until retiring the older one. Still carry a driver's license out of one but live in the other. Just you know, both states will sell me handguns.
ReplyDeleteDoes either state have a requirement that says if you're in this state longer than a week, maybe 2 weeks, you have to get a resident drivers license, and must register and insure the vehicle here? Some states are like that
DeleteVT will allow you to register a vehicle if you are not a resident. They have very clear instructions on how to do it on the DMV web site. VT is commonly used for collectors who cannot get a title for their car in their own state due to it being from a title-exempt state (like NH or VT for vehicles over a certain age or from southern states that didn't issue titles until the early 70s) or lost title. You can register it as long as you like in VT as long as you pay the sales tax each year of the full book value of the car, or you can then take your valid VT reg to your DMV and use it to obtain a title and registration for your state. There might be other states like this.
ReplyDeletethanks! Well, that will explain any Vermont plates I see... so just keep paying the book value sales tax, every year? Dang, they are making money off someone with that hook!
DeleteYup, I looked into doing it for my 79 VW Bus now that I'm in Maine, the bus was last registered in NH in 2013 and is title-exempt there. Maine wants $280 a year in taxes - flat rate since over 15 years old but I need a current out-of-state reg to get a title, VT wants KBB\NADA average retail value ($14,000) x 6% = $840. Not cheap but if you have no other option then it is a pain worth feeling.
DeleteFortunately, I still own property in NH so I'm going to register it in NH this spring for the whopping sum of $75 and call it good.
you live in Vermont? and have property in New Hampshire? You're living in some real forested country! I was stationed in CT in 1990-91, and once drove north on the 91 interstate until I got into Canada... just for a nice look around at that part of the USA that is possibly the least visited by tourists (as that's the corner of the country and and of the continent) and yet amongst the oldest of the colonies and oldest USA historical stuff to see... revolutionary war fort locations, etc.
DeleteBEAUTIFUL land up there.
Owning land in NH, is that for camping, hunting, farming? Or family heritage? Or something else? Only curious, not trying to intrude if you don't want to discuss it.
Maine wants 280, Vt wants 840, but NH is good for 75? Dang, they know what they're doing! You get a lot more people to pay less and get them to visit now and then, or own property and pay property tax, or something... and by comparison, why would anyone bother with Vermont?
I live in Maine, I have a house in NH that the ex lives in along with my daughter and grandson. When we split the market was horribly depressed with the crash of 2008, selling the house at that time would have screwed us both so we left it out of the proceedings. Worked out well for both of us, she got a place to live along with the kids at a monthly payment that is about half of the current rental costs for a single bedroom apartment, and I get to keep a tax-free residence. The house is in southern NH - aka Boston-North - and I live in northern Maine because I am not a people-person :). I was born and raised in NH, my parents and family are all from Maine so it is a natural thing for me living around here.
DeleteNH has no sales or income tax, though property taxes are not cheap (~$2600 per $100,000). People use VT because they are one of the few states that don't require residence to register, then title-required states have to accept your valid, current reg as proof of ownership for title-request purposes since VT won't title over 15 years of age. You'll pay for it with VT but if the alternative is not being able to register your classic OR - more importantly - sell it at loss because of no title, $800 is worth it. I've sold 30+ cars out of state that are title-exempt. Even non-running project cars can be registered in VT and\or NH (no required inspection prior to registration) so I have tossed plates on a non-runner for $75 to make an out-of-state or out-of-country sale. It's a lovely thing :)
NH is inexpensive to register - used or new - with no sales tax but you do have to show a valid NH ID. Oh, and NH doesn't require insurance. Right. No forced car insurance. Well, until you have an accident and don't cover your responsibility or if you have a DUI, then you need an SR-22 (expensive forced insurance rider) for 3 years. Of course, if you have a lien then you have to have insurance but that is forced by the lender, not the state.
All three states are quite lovely, though the winters are harsh. Both ME and NH have the advantage of being able to go from the ocean to the mountains and back again in a single day. VT is just green as hell and less populated. Plus, they have some of the best cheese on the planet :D
Oh yes, that 2008 financial train wreck... I worked for 2 companies between 2007 and 08 that went out of business because of that, and the "Stimulus Package" killed the contract job I was working when Lockheed Martin got the news that a bridge to nowhere was more important than the military base security contract we'd been working under... and that was the best job I've ever had, and it went poof * like a smoke cloud in a hurricane.
DeleteHappy to hear that your split was amicable enough to allow for the house to work out the way it has... surely it has worked out better than probably anything else would have for them to rent or try to buy.
I posted some trail crawlers out in the far reaches of Maine, or Vermont, I can't recall which, and that is some beautiful country!
I grew up in the upper peninsula of Michigan, with very similar winter and summer weather to that of Maine, Vt, NH.
The car registration and insurance seems to still be very 60s, not a lot of govt interference in what has worked out well so far.
Oh hell yes the cheese, and syrup... I love them both too much. An uncle was the type to make homemade maple syrup, and nothing synthetic matches that incredible rich smokey flavor as homemade syrup. It's made pancakes pretty expensive for me compared to Aunt Jemima, or whatever sugar syrup is in the stores now, but it's as impressive to taste compared to storebought as as the best pizza vs 7-11 frozen pizza.