What do you mean with "somewhere no one will read it?". I just read it, as will every single person reading this blog.
Anyway, as kids we used to stand on the outside of a bridge fence, leaning forward as steam locomotives (1960s, in case you wonder) would pass beneath us. Later we'd place coins on the train tracks, and only jump away just when the engineer honked his horn at us. Then eventually we grew up.
My point is; Kids do stupid stuff, and have been doing so since the dawn of time. Get over it, instead of wishing them dead...
Here is what I mean... the shape and font, the style, the abstraction of the letters or symbols of the graffiti make it illegible to most of the people that may ever see it. See it? Yes, you saw it. Read it? You actually took the time to interpret the words or letters enough to describe to someone else what is written on the bridge in a language they understand? Very well, tell me 3 words on that bridge. I doubt you can, as I feel the graffiti is not intelligible, and that is the premise for my statement "no one will read it" and even though I've posted it, I don't believe any more people have now read the mess than had before it went out on the internet.
I did the coins on the train tracks too, once or twice. Just put them on, wait for the train to come through, then try and find the coin. Yes, stupid kid stuff, I agree. However, coins on a track aren't making a mess of a bridge, and not risking your life, and can not endanger others who will have to clean off the graffiti, or cost the taxpayers money to paint over the mess. Coins, simply, are not a good analogy. And I stick by what I said, stupid graffiti, no one can read, where no one can read it. The people driving on the bridge are moving along over it. I suppose the road brings them to where it can be seen from some side of the valley, but maybe not. After all, there are 2 photos, and the one next to the kids sure as hell wasn't taken from a car
And "I" didn't wish them dead. I'd wish them to make a Banksy level genius piece of public art with an ethical point of view making a statement as art. I wish few people dead, and since they are still alive, apparently I don't have powerful enough magic to kill with brainwaves
No Kim, maybe your right. That bridge looks so much better since they applied their 'Art'. I hate the pretense that graffiti is Art. Its an argument you will loose with me. Examples of graffiti as art I can count on one hand. Banksey is one, find me another. I dont wish them dead, I wish them well. I hope their pre frontal cortex shows some sign of development before their parents. I hope they have the ability to recognize that the cost and risk associated with cleaning up the mess and retrieving their friends from the ravine is now the problem of the greater community. You say you can read it, really what does it say? Are you enlightened? Are you currently thinking about the message and questioning something? I think its safe to say, NO.
Any reports of these young fools falling to their deaths in their attempt to immortalize themselves? I keep hearing in the back of my mind something about Darwin's theory.
The Darwin Award. Google that, they do an annual list, and have a website. it's a lot of fun to read regardless of if you find what you are looking for
What is it you disagree with Kim? The bridge looks bad. Agreed. Graffiti is a scurge. Agreed. The act is dangerous to them and those around them.Agreed?...Kim?
Banksey is responsible for some stenciled works that are mutually considered admirable. Agreed.
He wasnt very good at grafitti. Agreed. The truth is the mid teen, middle class "political activist"(whoa) who while feeling hard done by. Went out to other areas of town to Bomb (deface), a bit like the tools on the bridge. Crapping his big boy pants while standing up to the man, (lying in oil under a truck sweating his little heart out because the police man was there). Found a moment of enlightenment and realized all he was doing was senseless vandalism and chose a different path. Stenciling allowed images to be put up quickly and legibly. Allowing the social commentary to play out. There's the difference.
I know, we were all scally wags once, weren't we Mr Wilson? Such rambunctious little terrors in those days. Lighting that paper bag and ringing the door bell. But I think this is a bit different. You admit yourself the aesthetics of that bridge have not been enhanced. While you were reading the powerful words of wisdom painted there, did you notice it crosses a ravine. The thing about bridges is that they touch down on land either side of what they span. You can even see the fall of the land in the first image. With a bit of grease, you would not get very far or fall a long way if you insisted on persisting. Unless you think the potential loss of life is some how eased a few hundred meters off the ground? Only your words suggested death, chicken little. Ever heard of the saying, 'Prevention is better than a cure'? You are also right that kids and stupidity go hand in hand, especially when encouraged by their peers.
Ah. Ok. Moving on then.... and banksy, I didn't know that was the reason he went with stencils! I thought it was for fast work, so he won't get caught... I think his real genius is the message he gets across with most of his art. Anything that's a mess can be graffiti, but if something actually causes you to ponder the meaning, or message.... to me, that's art. I dig that about Banksy
I strongly recommend Banksy's book 'Wall and Piece' (£12/US$20). It tells not only about his professional life and gives details about a number of his works, but also reminds the reader that, off or on the walls, Banksy has an unusually fine sense of humour.
I bought it myself! For anyone who wants a look at it, there is a youtube video that flips through the whole thing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXyva3IW-ys
Simple solution......... grease the ledge.
ReplyDeletewow! Damn that is cruel, innovative, and final!
DeleteWhat do you mean with "somewhere no one will read it?". I just read it, as will every single person reading this blog.
ReplyDeleteAnyway, as kids we used to stand on the outside of a bridge fence, leaning forward as steam locomotives (1960s, in case you wonder) would pass beneath us. Later we'd place coins on the train tracks, and only jump away just when the engineer honked his horn at us. Then eventually we grew up.
My point is; Kids do stupid stuff, and have been doing so since the dawn of time. Get over it, instead of wishing them dead...
Here is what I mean... the shape and font, the style, the abstraction of the letters or symbols of the graffiti make it illegible to most of the people that may ever see it. See it? Yes, you saw it. Read it? You actually took the time to interpret the words or letters enough to describe to someone else what is written on the bridge in a language they understand? Very well, tell me 3 words on that bridge. I doubt you can, as I feel the graffiti is not intelligible, and that is the premise for my statement "no one will read it" and even though I've posted it, I don't believe any more people have now read the mess than had before it went out on the internet.
DeleteI did the coins on the train tracks too, once or twice. Just put them on, wait for the train to come through, then try and find the coin. Yes, stupid kid stuff, I agree. However, coins on a track aren't making a mess of a bridge, and not risking your life, and can not endanger others who will have to clean off the graffiti, or cost the taxpayers money to paint over the mess. Coins, simply, are not a good analogy. And I stick by what I said, stupid graffiti, no one can read, where no one can read it. The people driving on the bridge are moving along over it. I suppose the road brings them to where it can be seen from some side of the valley, but maybe not. After all, there are 2 photos, and the one next to the kids sure as hell wasn't taken from a car
And "I" didn't wish them dead. I'd wish them to make a Banksy level genius piece of public art with an ethical point of view making a statement as art. I wish few people dead, and since they are still alive, apparently I don't have powerful enough magic to kill with brainwaves
DeleteNo Kim, maybe your right. That bridge looks so much better since they applied their 'Art'.
DeleteI hate the pretense that graffiti is Art. Its an argument you will loose with me. Examples of graffiti as art I can count on one hand. Banksey is one, find me another.
I dont wish them dead, I wish them well. I hope their pre frontal cortex shows some sign of development before their parents.
I hope they have the ability to recognize that the cost and risk associated with cleaning up the mess and retrieving their friends from the ravine is now the problem of the greater community.
You say you can read it, really what does it say?
Are you enlightened? Are you currently thinking about the message and questioning something?
I think its safe to say, NO.
I bet you can get yellow grease if you shop around. I know they make red!
ReplyDeleteAny reports of these young fools falling to their deaths in their attempt to immortalize themselves? I keep hearing in the back of my mind something about Darwin's theory.
ReplyDeleteThe Darwin Award. Google that, they do an annual list, and have a website. it's a lot of fun to read regardless of if you find what you are looking for
Deletewell, shit. They used to. Looks like they gave up on their website in 2014 http://darwinawards.com/darwin/
Delete@ Burkey, I disagree. The graffiti on this bridge was no improvement. With some notable exceptions, most graffiti is crap.
ReplyDeleteI'm a big fan of Banksy (who, incidentally, ended up doing stencils, because he wasn't very good at graffitti).
What is it you disagree with Kim?
DeleteThe bridge looks bad. Agreed.
Graffiti is a scurge. Agreed.
The act is dangerous to them and those around them.Agreed?...Kim?
Banksey is responsible for some stenciled works that are mutually considered admirable. Agreed.
He wasnt very good at grafitti. Agreed.
The truth is the mid teen, middle class "political activist"(whoa) who while feeling hard done by. Went out to other areas of town to Bomb (deface), a bit like the tools on the bridge. Crapping his big boy pants while standing up to the man, (lying in oil under a truck sweating his little heart out because the police man was there). Found a moment of enlightenment and realized all he was doing was senseless vandalism and chose a different path.
Stenciling allowed images to be put up quickly and legibly. Allowing the social commentary to play out. There's the difference.
I know, we were all scally wags once, weren't we Mr Wilson?
Such rambunctious little terrors in those days. Lighting that paper bag and ringing the door bell.
But I think this is a bit different. You admit yourself the aesthetics of that bridge have not been enhanced.
While you were reading the powerful words of wisdom painted there, did you notice it crosses a ravine. The thing about bridges is that they touch down on land either side of what they span. You can even see the fall of the land in the first image. With a bit of grease, you would not get very far or fall a long way if you insisted on persisting.
Unless you think the potential loss of life is some how eased a few hundred meters off the ground? Only your words suggested death, chicken little. Ever heard of the saying, 'Prevention is better than a cure'? You are also right that kids and stupidity go hand in hand, especially when encouraged by their peers.
What else you got?
@ Jesse: I know you didn't wish them dead, and never meant to even imply that. My comment was directed at Burkey, who wrote about greasing the ledge.
ReplyDeleteAh. Ok. Moving on then.... and banksy, I didn't know that was the reason he went with stencils! I thought it was for fast work, so he won't get caught... I think his real genius is the message he gets across with most of his art. Anything that's a mess can be graffiti, but if something actually causes you to ponder the meaning, or message.... to me, that's art. I dig that about Banksy
DeleteI strongly recommend Banksy's book 'Wall and Piece' (£12/US$20). It tells not only about his professional life and gives details about a number of his works, but also reminds the reader that, off or on the walls, Banksy has an unusually fine sense of humour.
ReplyDeleteI bought it myself! For anyone who wants a look at it, there is a youtube video that flips through the whole thing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXyva3IW-ys
DeleteI was just wondering why they didnt go over the rail with a rope and rock climbing harness
ReplyDelete