Showing posts with label Plymouth National Troubleshooting Contest. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Plymouth National Troubleshooting Contest. Show all posts

Saturday, December 10, 2022

I just learned something very amazing, from Tony who was in the 1966 Plymouth Troubleshooting Contest in Detroit, and that changed the course of his life (college instead of the Air Force during Vietnam)


That contest changed my whole life, and possibly saved it. 

As a senior I was graduating and had already taken a test to join the Air Force. Vietnam was in full swing. I scored a 98% in mechanics, so the Air Force was going to train me as a jet mechanic. Imagine that! 

The 1966 Plymouth Troubleshooting Contest First-Place team received a $1,500 scholarship each, and we (2nf place)  received $1,000 each. That was enough to pay for me to attend College for the first two years. The morale of the story is that this Chrysler-Plymouth Troubleshooting Contest changed young students lives for the better! I am very appreciative.

The man on the left is our Washington High (Fremont, CA) high school teacher, Mr. Dwayne Blevins. He was so mad when we were not awarded 1st Place and argued to no avail with the judges who gave First Place to a vocational school from Dearborn, MI. 

Their reasoning was that it had been 2 1/2 hours of cars getting disqualified and they were afraid they would not get a winner. We were right behind them, next in line.

 Mr. Blevins went on to become a Junior College automotive technology instructor, after which he became a crew chief for a NASCAR team. I remember he had his own dirt track race car that he often worked on after school. He also became a pilot flying vintage jets. 

I next saw him 50 years after the contest when he flew a vintage military jet into North Island Naval Air Station in San Diego. He said I would recognize him because he would be carrying something he wanted to give me. He was waiting for me in the parking lot carrying his Richard Petty blue hand toolbox with 1966 National Plymouth Troubleshooting Contest in big white letters on the sides that he got from Plymouth at the time and had saved since then. 

Richard Petty had actually fired the starting gun at the 1966 nationals after stating, "Gentlemen, start your engines!"


The next person in the promotional picture is me (Tony Loya), followed by my contest partner (Chuck Fabbri), and then followed by a Chrysler-Plymouth executive. 

Chuck took his contest scholarship money and attended the same Junior College as I and majored in Automotive Technology. He worked for Sears as a Master Mechanic for many years and then owned his own automotive repair shop where he developed and held at least one patent that I know of for a Chevrolet rear differential specialty repair tool. The son of a Bank of America branch manager, he had natural mechanical skills and a love for Chevy El Caminos. 

During the contest I got stuck on a fuel problem I couldn't solve. Chuck calmly asked if he could take a stab at it if I worked on the electrical problems. He fixed the fuel problem in no time. I knew right then and there he was a better mechanic than I and that automotive tech would probably not be in my future. Chuck is no longer with us. -- 

As for me, during my college registration process the counselor asked what my major was going to be. I replied that I didn't know because I wasn't supposed to be there. She looked puzzled and then gave me a class catalog to look at while she attended to other students. When she returned, she advised she was going to assign me all state required classes to which I asked if I could at least pick one elective. I had seen a class on Introduction to law enforcement that caught my eye. She commented, "Oh, you're going to be a cop." I said no, and that it just sounded interesting. She replied, "Nobody takes that class unless they are going to be a cop." 

She was right. I achieved an AA degree in Police Science and went on to a four college to get a BA degree in Law Enforcement Administration. I subsequently retired after a 27-year career with the U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA), followed by an 18-year second career with the Office of National Drug Control Policy and their High Intensity Drug Trafficking Area Program. All this because of the Plymouth Troubleshooting Contest. --

To be in the contest, we had to be sponsored by a Chrysler-Plymouth dealer. Across from our high school was such a dealership, Edgren Motors, owned by Mr. Lloyd Edgren. Mr. Edgren worked his way up from starting a small repair shop to owning his own dealership. As a mechanic himself, he never forgot his roots and wanted to give back. Through his dealership he supplied our school's Driver's Education cars and sponsored our contest teams over the years. 

After my education and after securing my career with the DEA, I went back to thank Mr. Edgren for making a difference in my life. I never forgot that he also invited my parents and I, as well as Chuck and his family, to his dealership to take photos after we returned from Detroit. He was also there when Chuck and I received our scholarship checks. 

Sadly, when I returned, Mr. Edgren had unexpectedly passed at a young age. The dealership was also no longer there as it had later burned down in a fire.

 I don't know whose idea it was at Chrysler to create the Plymouth Troubleshooting Contest, but I know it affected many lives for the better, from dealerships, to teachers, to students. It made the world a better place by making opportunities. I hope it survives in some form at Chrysler. If it doesn't, Chrysler should consider reviving it, as it has a rich history. Mr. Blevins, Chuck and I, and Mr. Edgren, are but one story.

https://justacarguy.blogspot.com/2021/04/the-team-that-would-have-won-1966.html kicked off a communication with Tony, he replied with the above

Saturday, January 15, 2022

I was contacted this morning by Mark, who competed in the 1965 Plymouth National Troubleshooting Contest in Detroit, after winning the San Francisco Bay Area Regional competition held in San Mateo (Thanks Steve! )


Mark attached a picture of him and his partner, Raul Mora, and the owners of the Santa Rosa CA Plymouth dealership, Zumwalt Plymouth Chrysler. 

Mark has been trying to find information that describes the PNTC so he can share it with his family (younger generations) and friends, as he is almost 75 now, and wants them to know what he was up to when he was just 18.

I have posted a couple times about the contest, but I didn't add a specific troubleshooting contest tag to those posts, and they are buried in the archives, in the 208 Plymouth posts




Mark sent me an email, and said:

Reading this has brought back some more memories. 

 Some of the things we had to identify and repair in the CA regional contest were: spark plug welded shut, neutral starting switch wire disconnected in firewall cable connector, 8 cylinder distributor cam and shaft assy was replaced by one from a 6 cylinder engine, which caused the plugs to fire in WILD timing order … which caused backfires up the carburetor, and several other items which don’t come to mind right now. 

 At the Nationals competition, I don’t really remember any of the malfunctions EXCEPT the one that got us disqualified … along with so many other teams that if memory serves correctly they didn’t have enough non-disqualified contestants to fill all five “first through 5th places” by the ending time (started at 1:00 and ended at 5 PM … again if memory serves). 

 What they had done was to loosen the 2 small screws that hold the OVAL shaped butterfly in the carburetor, and then they twisted the butterfly slightly so that it would NOT FULLY CLOSE in the bore of the carb no matter how hard you pulled on the throttle. We, and many others, didn’t recognize what they had done, and compensated for the extra air going through the carb by adjusting the mixture and idle screws to get it to idle “properly”. BUT, when the judges removed the air cleaner cover and looked into the carb, they could see immediately that we hadn’t fixed it correctly, and the rules were that you had to have fixed EVERYTHING correctly or you were disqualified. 

 Such is life, and we DID have a wonderful time in Detroit . They put us up in a fancy hotel and took care of us, and gave us a tour of a Chrysler/Plymouth auto assembly factory, and I remember specifically, that the management was so proud that they had recently sped up the line from 55 cars per hour to 60 cars per hour. In order to do this, they had to “rebalance the line” a bit such that some workers couldn’t do “all of their original task”, and one that I again specifically remember, was that the worker who initially installed the lug nuts (just with his fingers) could NOW only install 4 per wheel, so the fellow who put the spare tire in the trunk now installed that last 5th lug nut on each wheel.

 Another thing they did was show us the Chrysler experimental car that was powered by a gas turbine engine, and it ran so smoothly that they put a nickel standing on its edge on the air cleaner cover and it just stayed there even though the engine was running. Funny what an 18 year old will remember.

P.S. something that we learned about in a previous years competition was that the competition creators placed a small clear plastic cap over one of the ignition points so that even when the points closed they did NOT make electrical contact … and the clear plastic made it hard to see what the problem was.

Thank you Steve! 

Tuesday, May 02, 2017

I don't know when they stopped caring about the kids, but Mopars used to be used for troubleshooting trainers, troubleshooting competitions, and Mopar built drivers ed mock up trainers. This is the first time I've seen Road Runners used for it though



I've posted about it before, but I can't recall when. I think it was in the 1950s that Chrysler first did this high school approach to getting kids attention with large training and competing donations. Even drivers ed fleets of cars.

The mock up drivers ed trainers were simple things I've more recently posted about http://justacarguy.blogspot.com/2014/12/mopar-4-speed-drivers-ed-trainer.html