someone was hiding a nitrous system under their Ford Tri Power!

https://www.facebook.com/groups/331841457196501/permalink/2832329987147623

classic American made carb brands, were there fewer than I thought, or just not many got contracts to be factory equipment on production cars?

Holley, Carter, Edelbrock, Rochester, Autolite, Stromberg, and Winfield are the ones that I can name by memory

Carter made the 1st 4 barrel, in 1952 for a Buick - and produced Rochesters and Webers

Autolite would place a Ford tag on carburetors purchased from Carter, Holley, and Rochester; so many carburetors with a Motorcraft tag actually were made by other companies

Carters foundry was so contaminated with PCBs it was turned into a EPA Superfund site a year later. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carter_Carburetor

The Carb Shop has an online database to share the carbs and information that they had gathered in 5 decades of operation

Autolite, Carter, Detroit, Ensign, Holley, Kingston, Linkert, Marvel, Motorcraft, Rayfield, Rochester, Schebler, Stromberg, Tillotson, Winfield, Zenith

https://www.thecarburetorshop.com/Carbshop_virtual_museum.htm

The Sunderman Carburetor Company offered a replacement carb for Model Ts, which had a trap-door similar to the design of some early mouse-traps. While early advertisements do not show the "Mouse Trap" data plate, at some time the name was given to this carburetor.

Ever hear of a Super Quad? Not me. I love this hobby, learning new stuff all the time

Flowed 1250, and this was the rear in a dual quad set. 

This was prepped by Dick Harrell. 

The SuperQuads are rare, only made for 2 years, 1969 and 1970, and only available over the counter.

They were 850 and 1000cfm in stock form respectively.

https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=26291481590444209&set=pcb.4495200910757152

https://www.facebook.com/groups/2695731877370740/

Might be the coolest thing I found today, Isky's autograph on Chavik's 39 Buick hot rod, next to a quartet of Stonmberg 97s

 

https://justacarguy.blogspot.com/2022/09/built-not-bought-this-39-buick-was.html for a gallery on the Buick at SEMA

this is rare, and very cool... a 442 without a 4 barrel. Why the hell did they do that? THAT is what a 442 is ABOUT! Four barrel, 4 speed, dual exhaust. Am I wrong? Anyway, check out this cool 66 with Hurst rims! Looks great!

In 1966, Oldsmobile offered the L69 option to compete with the tri power GTO. 

The 6-bbl Olds horsepower matched the GTO’s. Because the GTO had such great marketing and advertising, only 2,129 Oldsmobiles were ordered with triple two-barrel carburetors (and 1,171 of those were Cutlass Holiday Coupes)

https://www.autoevolution.com/news/1966-oldsmobile-4-4-2-unicorn-shows-one-year-only-6-bbl-surprise-it-s-too-rare-to-pass-246094.html#

Jeff Norwell's Ford got a full page in Hot Rod Magazine, and it's not even done yet!

I think the engine he's put together for it is a 1966 428 topped by a 406 tri-power induction complete (manifold and carbs) that had never been on a car. It's matched to a Ford Top Loader 4 spd

https://www.instagram.com/p/Cjl3VH5OO3v/?hl=en

https://inthegaragemedia.com/hot-rodding-north-of-the-border

It's been years since I posted about Jeff, his art is really damn good, and so are his hot rods

I posted some of his art in 2009 https://justacarguy.blogspot.com/2009/12/if-i-could-afford-it-id-get-jeff.html

and in 2014 when Street Rodder Magazine did a feature on him https://justacarguy.blogspot.com/2014/08/congrats-to-jeff-norwell-street-rodder.html

and his cool 32 truck in 2015 https://justacarguy.blogspot.com/2015/12/the-interior-of-jeff-norwells-32-ford.html

the new Stromberg BIG97s flow 55% more than the originals

not many people need to know this, but it's good info

from my favorite source of comedy and art, Calvin and Hobbes. I recommend that you get the box set of the Complete Calvin and Hobbes, for yourself or as a gift.

 I got lucky and learned of the box set about 18 years ago when it was first for sale, right about the time The Far Side box set was released. Both are from the same fantastic publisher, Andrews McMeel, who also publishes another favorite of mine, Zits

https://grassrootsmotorsports.com/forum/off-topic-discussion/can-we-please-stop-hotlinking-pics/20411/page4294/

by the way, Bloom County is currently doing a collaboration with Bill Waterson, 

https://www.facebook.com/berkeleybreathed  for the method to see them, just scroll down the page, there are about 8 total, on today, June 29th, 2021

from a long list of things I've never heard of before, the Fish Carburetor

The Fish carburetor was invented by John Robert Fish and was ingeniously simple. A ram-air-pressurized float bowl got around the problem of fuel slosh starvation and a vaporization slot metered fuel automatically according to airflow without jets.

The Fish self-adjusted to a wide range of engine sizes, altitudes, and performance demands without having to change out jets, power valves, accelerator pumps, or venturi.

Fireball Roberts raced successfully with a Fish carburetor, and the design lived in the Minnow Fish and later Reece Fish series. The Fish had its adherents and successes in racing circles, but the design never gained mainstream popularity despite its performance advantages.

https://www.hagerty.com/articles-videos/articles/2019/09/11/off-beat-carburetors-to-check-out

say hello to my leaky little friend.

see the shiny metal mesh area to the left of the brass color disc? That is where gas from a regular gas station ate away old diaphragm material on my Holley 4144-1 (middle carb of the Mopar Holley Six Pack installed on Road Runner and Super Bees)

So, if you're leaking gas from the front right bottom side of your Holley, and it's puddling on your intake... this is probably the culprit

this isn't going to apply to very many people... but if you need parts for the 440 six pack, here's some links and a couple of cool vintage parts packs

http://www.chicagocarburetor.com/carburetor-parts.php?c=2354

the damn accelerator pump is leaking like crazy on my carb

or the rebuild kit (not available through Holley) https://www.jegs.com/i/Holley/510/37-396/10002/-1

there's a couple of sites that just seem to be search engines
but they're turning up stuff that Google isn't
http://www.stevefairchild.com/parts/holley-six-pack.html
http://www.glasshouseauto.com/section/six-pack-carbs.html
These sites have some nice sets of things you might want for a restoration, like a kit of just the plate shaft complete, or the inlet fuel filters

it turns out the float bowl to metering plate gasket wasn't the leaking part, the accelerator pump gasket is... so, time to tear it all apart again, and this time, maybe I'll get that damn leak fixed.

Why's it leaking? Well, it might be the 50 year old gasket, or that I only run the engine about once or twice a year, or the addition of alcohol to gasoline, which people say is messing up all the old rubber gaskets. That's a couple possibilities.

so, fyi, if you haven't yet had to replace gaskets, go for the green new ones

The things you ought to know, it's a 2300 series carb, and though specifically always carries the #4144-1, Holley never gives it any recognition, as though it doesn't exist. 

So, when you want to see an engineering drawing on it, expect no fucking help at all from any Holley resource. Go to the car guys, like Old Car Manual Project

 which if you compare to what https://www.holley.com/support/ offers, some how that isn't appearant on their website, but showed up in Google Images:

http://www.oldcarmanualproject.com/manuals/Carbs/Holley/TypicalViews/pages/2300C-SixPack.html

see what I mean?

you'll see that Holley has no made no effort to be useful, you know, after you've spent 1500 dollars or more on their carbs. Face it, these 6 packs are about 700 per carb, and the intake adds another 500. You're looking at 2500 dollars for a working 440 six pack. 

Carb Number      Carb Model Number     CFM         Renew Kit       Trick Kit

R4144-1              2300                              350            37-1537           37-933

 https://documents.holley.com/techlibrary_carb_numerical_listing.pdf

But what if you'd like to know about which accelerator pump is what you're using?

A larger capacity accelerator pump achieves one thing, it extends the duration of the pump shot.

 A larger accelerator pump is usually required when the carburetor, intake manifold and/or cylinder head is too large for the engine and the resulting weaker signal at low engine RPMs requires more time for the booster venturi to pull fuel through the main jet.

The 30 and 50cc capacity is the volume of fuel displaced from the accelerator pump in 10 complete strokes of the pump arm.

So the actual capacity is 1/10 that number or roughly 3 and 5cc respectively when opening the throttle from idle to wide open.

 The larger capacity 50cc pump is easily recognizable by the large pump arm with the encapsulated spring. In addition, the 50cc pump also uses a larger pump cam either a brown color (conventional carbs) or a yellow color (model 4500).

https://www.holley.com/blog/post/carb_class_giving_the_bog_the_boot/

Well, in my search for answers, I did find that it's taking a lot of time to find info, but I found this

and though the 440 six pack Mopar page is dead... the other pages, catalog scans, etc are amazing

Trivia about the American Graffiti cars, the Merc and Milner's duece

The intake on Milner's hot rod was a Man-A-Fre, it had 4 Rochester 2 barrel carbs, and direct port injection which was nicknamed the Afterburner

The Afterburner feature was a precursor to today’s direct-port nitrous oxide injection.

a Man-A-Fre kit was the aluminum plate that locates the four carburetors directly over the intake ports to achieve perfect fuel distribution and maximum performance.
The lack of traditional manifold passages kept the height of the entire setup very low. Even with the four carburetors mounted and air cleaners attached, everything fit under the hood

this one was made with 1958 carbs, mounted to the intake in 67, and in 1969 the owner was drafted but pulled this off his Corvette and put it in a duffle bag so it would be around when he got back from Nam, but he didn't use it for racing. It stayed in the duffle bag for 47 years before getting sold on Ebay


the 51 Mercury custom. In the movie it belonged to Bo Hopkins and the Pharoahs, who led Richard Dreyfuss to the adventure with the cop car.
Eddie Van Halen eventually bought the Mercury from a Universal Studios back lot and later sold it to Brian Setzer of The Stray Cats.
Eventually it belonged to a young collector in New York, who committed suicide over a failed love affair. His father refused to sell the car, and at last report it was rusting away in a junkyard.

https://www.hagerty.com/articles-videos/articles/2016/05/11/american-graffiti-deuce-coupe#
https://www.hotrod.com/articles/meet-man-fre-guru-makes-carburetor-injector-systems-look-like-new/

By the way, I'd love to blog more like this, about cooler cars, hot rod parts, etc, but it's far more time consuming to make one post with this type of stuff than 10 of the light humor, photos and amusing stuff. If posting was my full time paycheck job? It would be all about this sort of stuff, and without photos from library collections about old trains, showcases of painters art, etc. 

1966 Bronco, built with unique parts for off roading ability

The Bronco's carburetor was outfitted with special floats to prevent fuel starvation or flooding during climbs, descents and severe lateral tilts; a heavy-duty fuel pump was used to ensure that fuel delivery wouldn't be an issue. At the top of the engine, the conventional paper air cleaner was shelved in favor of an oil-bath unit; at the bottom, the oil pan was redesigned to clear the live front axle, and its capacity was raised to six quarts.

https://www.hemmings.com/magazine/hcc/2010/12/Bucking-Bronco---1966----77-Ford-Bronco/3693561.html

you know how Fords all seem to have had Autolite carbs? Well, it turns out that the 429 CJ in the 1970 and 1971 4 speed was topped with a Quadrajet

this one was found in a little swap meet in Royal Oak Michigan, for 6 bucks.

Turns out that it's got a Ford part number, and it might as well be made of unobtainium. See, a brand that Ford wouldn't use, when they own their own carb company, makes it worth serious money to restorers of 1971 Mustangs, Torinos, Cougars and Montegos 4 speed with out air conditioning

http://www.hotrod.com/articles/found-treasure-comes-sizes/

there is an argument brewing over the better carb, Holley or Edelbrock

seems it's fighting words to some people to say a Holley is a good carb, and others are mighty angry to have an Edelbrock not get praised.

I think a fight might break out, or clever memes will be created to talk trash.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/1686223568321025/permalink/1905552609721452/

It reminded me, there sure are a lot of carb companies, and car parts companies making carbs
Weber, Carter, Holley, Edelbrock, Rochester, Stromberg, Winfield, Demon, and Autolite come to mind pretty easy... Marvel was in the deep dark memory banks as being Hupmobile's choice, it was made in Flint Michigan. 

the ultra-rare 1958 Super Marauder 430-6V engine option for Mercury/ Lincoln.

http://www.motortopia.com/car-blogs/1958-super-marauder-9127
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/threads/mel-430-super-marauder-question.585081/

the only quandry was, single? Or dual? carbs

http://www.highdefforum.com/car-forum/115098-muscle-cars-1962-1972-a-140.html

the ford inline 4... carburetor. The Cross Boss

The Autolite inline 4 barrel carbs were developed as a way of dealing with the single 4 barrel rule imposed by the SCCA in Trans Am racing. The thought was since any 4 barrel carb was allowed, why not make a unit with the barrels all in a single row for better distribution?

 Inline carbs came in 2 versions. Part number DOZX 9510-A, aimed at Trans Am and NASCAR racing, used 1 11/16" throttle bores and was rated at 850 CFM. Part number DOZX 9510-B, aimed at drag and unlimited class racing, used 2 1/4" throttle bores and was rated at 1400 CFM.

Ford made just 1,000 Autolite In-Lines and 100 Cross Boss manifolds before production ended.

Of course, why they've faded from memory is the usual reason, more conventional Holley carbs worked better on the street and were easy to service. The Autolite inline 4 was much better over 5k rpm for racing.

"Cross Boss" is actually the name applied not to the carburetor, but the intake manifold it was designed with. This was a two-piece design with Ford part numbers D0ZX-9425-A and D0ZX-9C483-A.

when it gets to talking about rare musclecar carbs,  this one is always forgotten
http://www.highdefforum.com/1191295-post2095.html
http://www.mustangandfords.com/featured-vehicles/mufp-0609-1967-shelby-mustang-gt350/

Stromberg Carbs advertisement

Found on http://aacalibrary.tumblr.com/

a speed parts collector sent in a couple photos to Rodders Journal... wow, what a stash!

a set of Ardun heads... man.. that's hard to guess how long he waited to find a set for sale

intakes on either side of quick change center sections

instrument panels, flatheads, banjo steering wheels...

and more intakes and carbs... wow. This is not just a great collection, but a great presentation.

Thanks to Carl Tregler in Erie Pennsylvania! Link to source with a bit more info: http://www.roddersjournal.com/portfolio-item/garage-scene-pennsylvania-gold-mine/?utm_source=TRJ+Newsletter+List&utm_campaign=76172f4c7a-Garage+Scene%3A_1_15_2014&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_016fd74f35-76172f4c7a-85734653