I don't understand why so many right turns require this driver to use so much left turn steering, especially ion the turn before the chicane, and the long right hand curve after the chicane
Coming out of a right hand turn, full on the power, particularly with a live axle car, the rear end will try to step out and a quick flick to the left will catch it. Its called opposite lock. In a long curve you drift around, balancing the car between the sliding rear axle and the counter steering front tires.
20 years ago coming around a carousel corner like turn 12 on the Indianapolis Raceway Park road course in my XK120 (about a 300 degree turn to the right) I was usually feathering the throttle just enough to keep the rear end hanging out and using just enough left lock on the steering wheel to keep the car from spinning out. It's great fun in an old sports car with a live (solid) rear axle!
The current fad of 'drifting' is just and exaggerated version of the same phenomenon.
Hi Jesse,from down under. Think you will find that that is all about driving at the limit,ie. mainly oversteer[back end losing traction] with a bit of understeer at times. cheers,Rob.
It just seemed to me that the car was moving to it's right, when the driver was steering past the center, and some to the left. I get that it's needed to catch back up with traction, but it seemed to me to be steering left and the car was moving to the right. I guess I'll need to watch the video again, more closely. Perhaps the visual trick is that the curve is to the right, but the line the driver takes is more straight and maybe that's where visually it's tricky when he uses left steering
I've been through the experience myself a time or two... but that's not what's being discussed by me posting this. I was merely trying to point out that it looks really weird that the car seems to be making a right hand turn while the steering wheel gets left of center by enough to make the car turn left So, regardless of drifting, oversteer, understeer, traction, drifting, etc.. I still remark that it's strange to see a car turn right, when the car is going through a right hand turn. I suppose I better try looking at drift videos from the inside of the car, as that's something I haven't done. Perhaps they always convince a car to slide around a corner to the right, without giving it a turn of the wheel to the right, but instead turn the wheel to the left
Coming out of a right hand turn, full on the power, particularly with a live axle car, the rear end will try to step out and a quick flick to the left will catch it. Its called opposite lock. In a long curve you drift around, balancing the car between the sliding rear axle and the counter steering front tires.
ReplyDelete20 years ago coming around a carousel corner like turn 12 on the Indianapolis Raceway Park road course in my XK120 (about a 300 degree turn to the right) I was usually feathering the throttle just enough to keep the rear end hanging out and using just enough left lock on the steering wheel to keep the car from spinning out. It's great fun in an old sports car with a live (solid) rear axle!
The current fad of 'drifting' is just and exaggerated version of the same phenomenon.
Hi Jesse,from down under.
ReplyDeleteThink you will find that that is all about driving at the limit,ie. mainly oversteer[back end losing traction] with a bit of understeer at times.
cheers,Rob.
It just seemed to me that the car was moving to it's right, when the driver was steering past the center, and some to the left. I get that it's needed to catch back up with traction, but it seemed to me to be steering left and the car was moving to the right. I guess I'll need to watch the video again, more closely. Perhaps the visual trick is that the curve is to the right, but the line the driver takes is more straight and maybe that's where visually it's tricky when he uses left steering
DeleteIt's definitely hard to see, especially in a video. Most of the input comes from your butt, not what you see!
ReplyDeleteI've been through the experience myself a time or two... but that's not what's being discussed by me posting this. I was merely trying to point out that it looks really weird that the car seems to be making a right hand turn while the steering wheel gets left of center by enough to make the car turn left
DeleteSo, regardless of drifting, oversteer, understeer, traction, drifting, etc.. I still remark that it's strange to see a car turn right, when the car is going through a right hand turn.
I suppose I better try looking at drift videos from the inside of the car, as that's something I haven't done. Perhaps they always convince a car to slide around a corner to the right, without giving it a turn of the wheel to the right, but instead turn the wheel to the left
Like Doc Hudson said, "Turn right to go left!"
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